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Posted by: Jeff Davis 3/14/2008

Want to get a first hand look at government controlled health care?  Watch this brief video and see how a Canadian was forced to seek care in the United States in order to save his life.

Some Minnesota politicians believe that Minnesota should adopt a health care plan similar to that of Canada.  But these politicians would do well to consider some of the outcomes associated with the Canadian system, such as:

- Waits up to 5 days in Emergency rooms
- Three-year waiting list for a pain clinic
- Waits of four months for radiation therapy for cancer patients
- Declining enrollment in medical school resulting in too few doctors and nurses
- Closing hospitals to save costs
- 12 % of Canadians can’t find a family physician.

There are countless examples of why adopting a Canadian-style health care program is bad public policy for Minnesota.

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Re: If We Adopt Socialized Medicine, Where Will Canadians Go For Their Health Care?    By BRENDA POWELL on 3/13/2008
THIS VIDEO WAS EYE OPENING! WE AS REPUBLICANS, CANNOT LET THIS HAPPEN IN THE USA! I DON'T WANT TO BE SITTING IN A CROWDED WAITING ROOM WITH PEOPLE WHO HAVE JUST A COLD WAITING FOR A SERIOUS INJURY. I HAVE 2 SMALL CHILDREN AND STITCHES ARE ALMOST A GIVEN AT SOMETIME IN A CHILDS LIFE. HOW DO I TELL MY 8 YEAR OLD WE WILL GET IN TO SEE THE DOCTOR IN A FEW HOURS AND HE IS HURTING. DON'T LET THE LEFT TAKE OVER THIS COUNTRY. SOCIALIZED MEDICINE IS NOT THE ANSWER!!

Re: If We Adopt Socialized Medicine, Where Will Canadians Go For Their Health Care?    By James Rittenour on 3/23/2008
We too have horendously long waits in American E.R.'s, people can't afford primary care.

Three year wait for paitients suffering from pain? Where did you get that?

Declining enrollment in med schools has more to do with paying for the education and revulsion towards negotiating with private insurures for payment of services the doctor and the patient has deemed necessary. Did I say private insurures?

Health care congloms are closing hospitals here too for the same reasons, cutting costs.

If twelve percent of Canadiens can't find a primary physician, we shouldn't tell anybody we have just as many people who can't afford one. What's the difference?

Re: If We Adopt Socialized Medicine, Where Will Canadians Go For Their Health Care?    By dan.mcgrath on 3/24/2008
Excessive waits in US Emergency Rooms are the result of third-party pay resulting in over-use. Subsidized medical care is a big contributing factor. We don't have free markets now, and Minnesota Majority recognises the need for Health Care reform, but not just any "reform." It has to be the right reform.

The long waits in Canada's medical system are well known and documented. The Canadian government itself has finally been forced to acknowledge it's problems with long wait times. The same thing is now happening in the UK.

As to private insurance in Canada, perhaps you aren't familliar with their system. The government runs everything there, from single-payer "universal" coverage to the hospitals. The lack of private practice options is what is keeping students away from the medical profession.

Here in Minnesota, only about 7% of the population is presently uninsured, and nobody lacks access to a doctor. Our system needs work to be sure (and Minnesota Majority has a plan we are advocating to improve access and affordibility), but it's still better than Canada's mess. When a Canadian with means has a serious medical problem they need (or want) addressed quickly, they come to Minnesota for care. We are Canada's back-up medical plan. What does that tell you?

Re: If We Adopt Socialized Medicine, Where Will Canadians Go For Their Health Care?    By Elizabeth on 3/27/2008
My husband's niece lives in Canada. She had been having some dizziness for awhile and saw a neurologist there. She was told she may have a brain tumor but she'd have to wait at least 6 months for an MRI. 6 months being unreasonable, my husband and I had her fly down here to Minnesota and within 1 hour of getting off her plane, she was in the MRI. We had results in less than 15 minutes. Socialized medicine is a terrible plight!

Re: If We Adopt Socialized Medicine, Where Will Canadians Go For Their Health Care?    By Anisha on 5/7/2008
Attention Americans! The grass is certainly not greener on the other side of the fence as far as single payer health insurance is concerned. I lived in Canada for 42 years and am an American living in Minnesota for 10 years now. I lived in Ontario most my life and I can tell you the health care is awful and you wouldn't want to have that here. First of all you just don't have freedom of choice! It is so regulated and controlled even if you have the money and want to 'buy' care you can't! My 7 year old daughter at the time received an injury sledding one winter day and gashed her chin quite deeply. She needed stiches asap. We waited for a little over 7 hours in the emergency room for care and it wasn't even busy. We were left frustrated, angry and very hungry. She had to sit holding gauze on her bleeding chin that long! I have in-laws that are doctors in Ontario and they are not happy being so extremely regulated and seeing how dysfunctional this is. So many come down to the states to practice with greater freedom and others come just to get faster care!

Keep in mind, once single payer/universal health is established, it gives government greater rights to impose things like vaccines, psychiatric drugging of your kids(without parental consent!!!) at schools that you don't even want! You have to fight tooth and nail just to have a 'conscientious objection' for those things.
Now that we are Americans living here, I absolutely do not want to see single payer or universal health care legislated here in the states! Freedom of Choice IS healthy!



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